Post by skyanultra on Apr 28, 2019 1:05:34 GMT
Yes hello, it's me. I'm that kid who somehow brought something slightly new to the table in algothons, with everyone using my assets and everything. My original username was Ultragamer564. My new username, as you can see, is SkyanUltra. I'd like to be referred to as such in this.
I was banned almost half a year ago, both from Algobox and the Algodoo forums. Let me lay out the situation for you:
Algobox
I have been banned in the past. Temporarily, at least a couple of times, but not too much. I have been arrogant back when I was younger. (Joined back sometime in 2014, was 9 at the time.) As I grew, I became more aware of how cancerous my community truly was and, while I still stick with that statement, I do still enjoy making these since they can be fun and I feel like I could bring a whole new standard to the community that would get people to actually make something that doesn't take less than an hour to make.
I was banned finally, on 11/14/2018, for swearing. Yes, swearing. I don't even think it was aimed at anyone, it was just said "fuck" once in the comment. Let me remind you, the ban was permanent. If anything, I feel like it should have been for a month or two at MOST. It really doesn't make that much sense to me. Anyways, after that I tried contacting wild bill (the new admin who was involved with my ban) about it. Which brings me to...
Algodoo Forums
I haven't used my Algodoo forums account often before the ban, and all I wanted to know about was what I had said. I did post the comment late at night, and I had only found out about my ban a couple days later. So, I went onto the Algodoo forums to contact wild bill. Since the forums doesn't let me even see what I had said before getting banned, I'll simply give quick summaries on them. Basically, I had asked what I had said in the comment that had profanity in it that got me banned, and asked if I had aimed it at anyone. (Later, i'd find out it was the f-word and wasn't aimed at anyone by one of my friends who had went and got a screenshot from when I did incase I was banned.) I said I wasn't too mad, and was just saying the ban felt a bit unjust and was asking for, at the least, a 6 month ban instead of the permanent one I had gotten.
Since I have screenshots of what wild bill had said, here it is about 10 minutes after asking:
1st message wild bill sent.
He obviously skimmed over the message, because otherwise he most likely would've told me the word I had said in the comments. So, I had told him again, about maybe an hour later or so that me asking to be unbanned wasn't really it. I didn't mind if I had to be permanently banned (which I actually did mind :^)) and that I simply wanted to know what I had said before that had gotten me banned. A few hours later after I had posted it, I got this response:
2nd message wild bill sent.
He still didn't answer my question. Not only that, he was being unfair in the fact he wasn't informing me of what I had said that had gotten me banned, and also was ignoring my supposed need to be unbanned, which, again, I had only said, to the extent, that I wanted a shorter ban, since it felt unfair. Not only that, they even said it when I had said that I didn't mind being permanently banned, and I only wanted that. Thinking of if I should continue arguing with wild bill being incredibly arrogant as an admin, or simply calm down and maybe asking him a couple weeks later. You can guess which one I picked, because the next thing I said was that he wasn't getting the point, and he needs to read my messages again because he wasn't getting the point. And as for his next response:
3rd "message" wild bill sent.
Yeah, no, there wasn't a response. Not one that I could see anyways, since I was banned. Again, he was being incredibly unfair and wasn't hearing me out. So, I kind of just ignored all of this for a while and never really found a place I could talk about this without feeling like it wouldn't do anything until a while later, when a good friend of mine (EnchGA) introduced me to Algoboards, where there were actual admins who were (at one time) here. And along with that, some others who I know are able to bring this to attention to Xray or some other admin. Because of that, here is my next section of this thread:
A Message to Xray
This entire next section is aimed towards the big admin of Algobox, and basically the co-owner, Xray. If any of the users (or admins) on this forum could bring this to him, that would be fantastic. I really have wanted to contact them about this for a long time, since the board admins are basically dead and haven't contacted me back for the half a year I've been banned, and I didn't want to make another account after the other 2 I made basically acting the same as these, and being banned exclusively by wild bill, who I have a suspicion he did it because he didn't want Xray to see it. That might just be me, though.
I've laid out all the evidence I have. Not only that, I even have a discord I'm in where others have brought evidence of wild bill being unfair as well: Discord (Note that I was pissed during all of this, ignore my angry comments about the situation. I've come to be more calm about situations like these.) Note that you may have to dig a little bit to find some of these, but there are still plenty of users from Algobox who have gathered here for Algobox's sake and also to bring proof of wild bill being unfair.
Now, my proposal. Xray, I have brought forth evidence from not only me, but many other users who have proof of unfair admin abuse and many other occurrences of wild bill being a bad admin. My asking is that I be unbanned from the Algodoo forums and Algobox both. That's all. If you really want, you can talk to wild bill about some of this stuff, but I doubt he'd be too willing to cooperate with me. Please, give this at least a bit of thought.
Extra Stuff
While i'm not forcing anyone to read this stuff, this is some extra stuff I have to say about ban related stuff i've found.
Tribossathlon Comment
Xray and wild bill had posted this on my scene after my ban a couple months after it:
Here are my views on this whole comment, since there are a few things I want to say about this comment since it really isn't all true.
1. "Well, he tries to convince his playmates that he was banned just for 'accidentally used the F-word' That's the dumbest thing I've heard in my life!" As I have mentioned before, I had posted that comment a couple days before my ban and hadn't thought much about it. Not only that, I have a form of a mental problem that is closely related with short-term memory loss. Can you really blame me for forgetting?
2. "... but when he posted that cuss word he blew his last chance he will ever get here on Algobox." Just a bit of ranting here, but I don't understand again why I was permanently banned here for a cuss word. Legit i've done MUCH worse in the past like getting into an argument with another user, and only got banned for a month at most. Why was I banned permanently for that specifically? Kind of bullshit if you ask me, to be completely honest.
3. "... he recently threatened Wild Bill and me that he will continue to log in here using alt accounts until one of us answers his questions." While I can't deny I created 2 alt accounts attempting to get a response after being banned on forums, I can definitely say that they were completely ignoring the evidence that I had for my forum account and weren't even answering them in my alt account ban reasons. They should've answered my first one, and I would've stopped. Hell, if they had just answered my first questions on the forum, I wouldn't have even thought about making alt accounts in the first place! Not only that, "threatening"? To quote Xray, "That's the dumbest thing I've heard in my life!" While I am over exaggerating this by a lot, and simply joking around, I am serious about the fact that I was not threatening anyone. All I wanted was a very simple answer that could've been avoided a LONG time ago, had wild bill done what he should have done in the first place. Had they have answered my questions, I wouldn't have ever made alt accounts or this post, as mentioned before.
Now, while I am sounding very mad about this, I simply am just stating what I think is true. I never remembered it due to not only me posting that a couple days ago and having a form of short-term memory loss, but also because of how unfair the ban time limit was, and just the statement of "threatening them" with a scene asking what I had said to get me banned by itself.
Conclusion(?)
That's basically everything I have. If you'd want, please bring some discussion to this if you'd like. I'd be happy to talk about this with some other people, just note that my responses may be a few days late or so. While not many people will see this, i've posted all this here to see if ANYONE could atleast send Xray this.
I was banned almost half a year ago, both from Algobox and the Algodoo forums. Let me lay out the situation for you:
Algobox
I have been banned in the past. Temporarily, at least a couple of times, but not too much. I have been arrogant back when I was younger. (Joined back sometime in 2014, was 9 at the time.) As I grew, I became more aware of how cancerous my community truly was and, while I still stick with that statement, I do still enjoy making these since they can be fun and I feel like I could bring a whole new standard to the community that would get people to actually make something that doesn't take less than an hour to make.
I was banned finally, on 11/14/2018, for swearing. Yes, swearing. I don't even think it was aimed at anyone, it was just said "fuck" once in the comment. Let me remind you, the ban was permanent. If anything, I feel like it should have been for a month or two at MOST. It really doesn't make that much sense to me. Anyways, after that I tried contacting wild bill (the new admin who was involved with my ban) about it. Which brings me to...
Algodoo Forums
I haven't used my Algodoo forums account often before the ban, and all I wanted to know about was what I had said. I did post the comment late at night, and I had only found out about my ban a couple days later. So, I went onto the Algodoo forums to contact wild bill. Since the forums doesn't let me even see what I had said before getting banned, I'll simply give quick summaries on them. Basically, I had asked what I had said in the comment that had profanity in it that got me banned, and asked if I had aimed it at anyone. (Later, i'd find out it was the f-word and wasn't aimed at anyone by one of my friends who had went and got a screenshot from when I did incase I was banned.) I said I wasn't too mad, and was just saying the ban felt a bit unjust and was asking for, at the least, a 6 month ban instead of the permanent one I had gotten.
Since I have screenshots of what wild bill had said, here it is about 10 minutes after asking:
1st message wild bill sent.
He obviously skimmed over the message, because otherwise he most likely would've told me the word I had said in the comments. So, I had told him again, about maybe an hour later or so that me asking to be unbanned wasn't really it. I didn't mind if I had to be permanently banned (which I actually did mind :^)) and that I simply wanted to know what I had said before that had gotten me banned. A few hours later after I had posted it, I got this response:
2nd message wild bill sent.
He still didn't answer my question. Not only that, he was being unfair in the fact he wasn't informing me of what I had said that had gotten me banned, and also was ignoring my supposed need to be unbanned, which, again, I had only said, to the extent, that I wanted a shorter ban, since it felt unfair. Not only that, they even said it when I had said that I didn't mind being permanently banned, and I only wanted that. Thinking of if I should continue arguing with wild bill being incredibly arrogant as an admin, or simply calm down and maybe asking him a couple weeks later. You can guess which one I picked, because the next thing I said was that he wasn't getting the point, and he needs to read my messages again because he wasn't getting the point. And as for his next response:
3rd "message" wild bill sent.
Yeah, no, there wasn't a response. Not one that I could see anyways, since I was banned. Again, he was being incredibly unfair and wasn't hearing me out. So, I kind of just ignored all of this for a while and never really found a place I could talk about this without feeling like it wouldn't do anything until a while later, when a good friend of mine (EnchGA) introduced me to Algoboards, where there were actual admins who were (at one time) here. And along with that, some others who I know are able to bring this to attention to Xray or some other admin. Because of that, here is my next section of this thread:
A Message to Xray
This entire next section is aimed towards the big admin of Algobox, and basically the co-owner, Xray. If any of the users (or admins) on this forum could bring this to him, that would be fantastic. I really have wanted to contact them about this for a long time, since the board admins are basically dead and haven't contacted me back for the half a year I've been banned, and I didn't want to make another account after the other 2 I made basically acting the same as these, and being banned exclusively by wild bill, who I have a suspicion he did it because he didn't want Xray to see it. That might just be me, though.
I've laid out all the evidence I have. Not only that, I even have a discord I'm in where others have brought evidence of wild bill being unfair as well: Discord (Note that I was pissed during all of this, ignore my angry comments about the situation. I've come to be more calm about situations like these.) Note that you may have to dig a little bit to find some of these, but there are still plenty of users from Algobox who have gathered here for Algobox's sake and also to bring proof of wild bill being unfair.
Now, my proposal. Xray, I have brought forth evidence from not only me, but many other users who have proof of unfair admin abuse and many other occurrences of wild bill being a bad admin. My asking is that I be unbanned from the Algodoo forums and Algobox both. That's all. If you really want, you can talk to wild bill about some of this stuff, but I doubt he'd be too willing to cooperate with me. Please, give this at least a bit of thought.
Extra Stuff
While i'm not forcing anyone to read this stuff, this is some extra stuff I have to say about ban related stuff i've found.
Tribossathlon Comment
Xray and wild bill had posted this on my scene after my ban a couple months after it:
Here are my views on this whole comment, since there are a few things I want to say about this comment since it really isn't all true.
1. "Well, he tries to convince his playmates that he was banned just for 'accidentally used the F-word' That's the dumbest thing I've heard in my life!" As I have mentioned before, I had posted that comment a couple days before my ban and hadn't thought much about it. Not only that, I have a form of a mental problem that is closely related with short-term memory loss. Can you really blame me for forgetting?
2. "... but when he posted that cuss word he blew his last chance he will ever get here on Algobox." Just a bit of ranting here, but I don't understand again why I was permanently banned here for a cuss word. Legit i've done MUCH worse in the past like getting into an argument with another user, and only got banned for a month at most. Why was I banned permanently for that specifically? Kind of bullshit if you ask me, to be completely honest.
3. "... he recently threatened Wild Bill and me that he will continue to log in here using alt accounts until one of us answers his questions." While I can't deny I created 2 alt accounts attempting to get a response after being banned on forums, I can definitely say that they were completely ignoring the evidence that I had for my forum account and weren't even answering them in my alt account ban reasons. They should've answered my first one, and I would've stopped. Hell, if they had just answered my first questions on the forum, I wouldn't have even thought about making alt accounts in the first place! Not only that, "threatening"? To quote Xray, "That's the dumbest thing I've heard in my life!" While I am over exaggerating this by a lot, and simply joking around, I am serious about the fact that I was not threatening anyone. All I wanted was a very simple answer that could've been avoided a LONG time ago, had wild bill done what he should have done in the first place. Had they have answered my questions, I wouldn't have ever made alt accounts or this post, as mentioned before.
Now, while I am sounding very mad about this, I simply am just stating what I think is true. I never remembered it due to not only me posting that a couple days ago and having a form of short-term memory loss, but also because of how unfair the ban time limit was, and just the statement of "threatening them" with a scene asking what I had said to get me banned by itself.
Conclusion(?)
That's basically everything I have. If you'd want, please bring some discussion to this if you'd like. I'd be happy to talk about this with some other people, just note that my responses may be a few days late or so. While not many people will see this, i've posted all this here to see if ANYONE could atleast send Xray this.